220 Revolutionizing Your Wardrobe with Color Analysis with Color Guru Jeannie Stith

Are you tired of a cluttered wardrobe with nothing to wear? Imagine opening your closet to a collection of clothes that all coordinate effortlessly, bringing out your best features. You'll learn how this dream can be a reality in my chat with Jeannie Stith where she shares her journey and the magic of how color analysis can transform your wardrobe, saving you time and reducing stress.

Jeannie is the founder and CEO of Color Guru, where she matches you to your ideal color palette for clothing so that you can look beautiful and confident in your clothes, shop more simply, and create a coordinated wardrobe. Jeannie’s unique virtual color testing system and color cards have simplified choosing clothes for people in 27 countries and counting! Color Guru has been featured in Vogue, The Spark Joy Podcast, and Apartment Therapy.

In this episode, we cover:

• Color Analysis and its Impact on Shopping
• Organizing and Streamlining the Wardrobe
• Transitioning to a New Color Palette

To get your color analysis, go to www.colorguru.com and use code HARMONY for 10% off.

Connect with Jeannie on Instagram or TikTok @yourcolorguru

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FULL TRANSCRIPT:

Megan 00:00
Hey everyone. I'm thrilled for you all to meet Jeannie today. Jeannie is the founder of ColorGuru, which really changed my life a couple of years ago from a both time savings and a financial savings, and she's gonna be here today to talk to you about color analysis, how this ultimately helps you save time in so many parts of your life and, guys, if you need any last minute gifts, this is a great thing to consider. So we've got information for you on that as well. Let's go ahead and I can't wait for you all to meet her.

00:38
Welcome to the WorkLife Harmony podcast. I'm your host, megan Somerle. I'm the creator of the top program and top planner teaching all things time management, organization and productivity for women. I'm also a mom and wife and, just like you, I'm juggling hashtag all the things while running multiple businesses and a family. Guess what I have to feel constantly overwhelmed, exhausted and stressed out. There is another way when you have the right systems and tools to plan and manage your time, you can live a life of harmony. This is your show to learn from me and other amazing women how to master your time, planning an organization to skyrocket your productivity so you can have work life harmony If you're ready to stop feeling overwhelmed?

01:17
This is the show for you, and if you're new here, I'd love to get you started with my work life harmony assessment. All you have to do is DM me on Instagram, at Megan Someril, with the word harmony, and my team will send it right over. Hey, everyone, welcome back to work life harmony. All right, if you are doing the bad kind of multitasking right now or you're only half listening, I encourage you to stop, because you are going to want to hear what my amazing guest has to say. I have been in her world for several years, I am one of her biggest fans, I use her product and today we're really going to talk into how her services can ultimately help you save time in three very distinct ways. So welcome to the show, jeanie. I would love for you to introduce yourself and tell everyone all how you launched the Color Guru.

Jeannie Stith 02:13
Sir hi Megan, I'm so happy to be here. My name is Jeanie Stitt and I'm the founder and CEO of Color Guru, and the way Color Guru started was that I was shopping with my aunt like 20 years ago and she said to me I think you're buying all the wrong colors for yourself. She just put it out there. That's her opinion and she's like you need to get your colors done. And I had never heard of this concept, didn't even know it was the thing, and I lived in the Philadelphia area at the time and we were looking for someone to do my colors. We looked online a little bit and couldn't find anything, just couldn't find it. The service had sort of fallen out of trend. You know, it was very trendy in like the 80s and early 90s.

Megan 02:59
Yes, that's what my grandmother had in mind done.

Jeannie Stith
Guest
03:01
Exactly so many people, so many of our moms and grandmothers, had their colors done. And so finally, a year later, I happened upon a woman who was retired and still doing colors out of her home, and I went to her and she gave me a color palette that was pretty dated, but I started trying some of the colors that I could find on the little swatch book she gave me and I was like, whoa, I do look so much better in these colors. Maybe there is something to this. And then I took eight of my friends to her because they all wanted it done, and I thought how is it that me and eight of my friends want this service and nobody's offering it? This is crazy.
03:41
So I was doing other things at the time. I was having babies and I had a great career that I loved in the voiceover world. I was a voiceover artist for 20 years, but it's stuck in the back of my mind Like, oh, if I ever started a business, I would bring this concept back in a fresh, modern way and redo the color palettes, make them modern, make the colors really findable and beautiful. And so that's what I did, because what I found, even with that dated color palette, even. What I found was that it solved so many problems in my closet. So I started looking better in everything I wore. I started being more intentional about what I bought and everything I bought looked good on me color-wise. So I'd go shopping and it was so much easier and then all my clothes started to coordinate together because these were colors that worked together. So I was like my cluttered, crazy closet sort of turned into an organized capsule wardrobe in a sense. I mean I get a lot of emails from people saying this was like an instinct capsule wardrobe.
Megan
Host
04:54
Can you explain what a capsule wardrobe is, in case someone's not familiar with that term?
Jeannie Stith
Guest
04:58
Sure, it's just a curated wardrobe of clothing that all works together. So it's intentionally clothing that's working together. And if you look up capsule wardrobes on Pinterest or something like that, you'll see a lot of neutrals, like they're generally filled with a lot of neutrals, which some people, and that's great. Of course, it's easy for neutrals to go together, but some people genuinely love wearing neutrals. I am not one of those people.
05:25
I love wearing color and, yeah, and one of the reasons the capsule wardrobe concept never really worked for me is like I don't really want to wear a lot of neutrals, I want to wear a lot of colors, and so this is what we do is give people a color card where they can wear color, but all the colors work together. And so, yeah, it just solved problems for me, and then when I started talking to people about it, they wanted the service. It was as simple as that. So I started just with my friends and then their friends wanted me to figure out their colors, and then I started doing color parties in people's homes. It was like a Tupperware party, but we were doing a group of people's colors, and then we brought it online in. Let's see, when was that 2017.? We came online and started our virtual color analysis. Yeah, and now we are back in a moment.
Megan
Host
06:15
And I found you through. I'm an avid listener of podcasts as well. I listened to a lot of business podcasts and personal also, a variety of all of it. And I was listening to a business podcast where you were being interviewed and just talking about the growth of your business, the success of it, and as soon as I heard what the business was, I was taken back to that time with my grandmother and wondering like I didn't even have that booklet anymore and figuring, chances are, my colors have changed because my hair color is different and there's more out there, skin tone changes as we mature and all of that.
06:50
And so one I knew I wanted to connect with you just from a business perspective. But then, second, I was just at that stage of life where I do like clothes, I like fashion, but my closet did not excite me, like it was just kind of like that you open your door and you're like, oh, what am I going to put on? And I have my passions for pink, and so it was like getting to the point where it was maybe too pink heavy, and so it was perfect that I jumped right in and got my color analysis done. And for those of you watching the video I'm going to hold up what mine is. I came out to be a Vivid Spring and it's what? Five, one, two, three, four, five, 35 colors. Are they all 35 colors? So it's 35 colors.
07:33
And then I also had my accompanying makeup card done as well, which I think this is like the secret weapon. How many times have I bought the wrong blush or lipstick Like, oh my gosh, I literally just pull this out if I need to get any lip product and just make sure it's on here. So this has really been a blessing with me and I want to ask you some questions on specifically how we use these to help us save time. But I am curious do you find, for people that maybe had colors done years ago, at what point do you think it's time to refresh a color palette? Is it if your hair changes? What are some guidelines there that maybe it's time to update that?
Jeannie Stith
Guest
08:15
Yeah, it's usually hair color changes are a big one. That's the biggest one that we see, because skin tone doesn't change too much throughout your life, but hair color can and does, and especially if you're coloring your hair now and when you had your colors done you weren't coloring your hair. If you've let your hair go gray, sometimes that can push people into a different color palette and some people just have the feeling Like I got it. Just the other day I got a DM from a woman who said I just feel like my colors aren't working for me anymore and she had. She had switched into a different season. It's not real common, like it doesn't happen often if you are not sort of changing your hair color, but it can happen. And so a lot of people who got it done in the 80s or 90s are coming to us and saying I just I want to see, are these still the colors for me?
Megan
Host
09:11
And it was interesting From a skin tone perspective. I really I struggled with pretty severe acne all through my teens, and so my skin was very red, which now is not, and so it did have a shift in things that I could wear, so the thing that's so cool. First, I want to make people understand this does not have to be an in-person, as you said. You went online. It was super easy. You sent me clear instructions of just taking photos. You gave very clear examples of how many pictures and how to do it. You do not share those pictures outside everyone, so get comfortable with just taking natural photos so you can get the best results. What would you say is the biggest time saving people get when it comes to shopping?
Jeannie Stith
Guest
09:59
first, yeah, so the thing about shopping is that we tend to do a couple things. Number one most people tend to buy the same things over and over again. Right, we all do that. You know it's like, when you think about it's a lot like grocery shopping. Like when you go to a grocery store, how often do you put a new product in your cart? Almost never. You just buy the same things over and over. We do the same thing with clothes shopping.
10:22
So it's interesting when we give people a color palette like sometimes people are concerned before they get their colors, like, oh, is this going to like severely limit me? Am I going to feel so limited by this? But just like your sign says, in the background, their structure is freedom and what most people find is this actually like breaks them open into like trying these new colors that they never thought they could wear and now they see they look absolutely gorgeous in. So most people have the opposite feeling once they have their color card in their hand and shopping. I can't even tell you how many people come to us and they're like shopping feels fun. Now it's like a treasure hunt for my colors. I know the colors look good, everything I take into the dressing room now I know looks good, color wise. I just have to assess like do I like the way it fits me? Is it my style?
11:13
Yeah because you can really break down dressing into three very simple things, which is color, shape, personal style. That's it. That's all dressing is. And once you get a handle on each of those and, like you know what colors look great on you, what you personally like on your body shape and what your style is, you can buy things that you will love for years to come.
Megan
Host
11:35
That's so true. And I remember when I got my card, I went to one of my favorite boutiques with it and I was looking at this because at first I was disappointed because my favorite shade of pink is not on here, but there's some that are just so close that I was like you know what? I have some pieces in my closet I love and even though it's not exactly this, I'm keeping them and I'm OK with that and I don't care. Yes, this has helped me lean into you know which direction to go, but there were some colors on mine in particular, like yellows, sunflowers, oranges. I would never, never will pull out an article of clothing in kind of that.
12:13
You know, my top row with more of the mustard's oranges and after I got this was, I think, one of the panatone colors was yellow that year, several years back. So I went and got a top and I, every single time I put that on, every time strangers will stop me and say how good that looks and I never, ever would have put it on. And then the other thing that I thought has been really helped me is if anybody does subscription box, you know, a stitch fixer, a daily look or whatever. I just sent this in and said don't put anything in my box that doesn't look here. And she was thrilled. She's like now because the chance is in me, keeping the pieces coming my way goes up. So I mean it's a win, win. So that's also been another huge saver for me, just from a shopping perspective 100%.
Jeannie Stith
Guest
13:01
Yeah, it makes it so easy when you have a subscription box or something like that. And yeah, and I love how you had that experience to where it kind of opened you up to colors you never would have considered before and it's like why weren't you considering them? Well, who knows, it doesn't matter, you just were in your habits. We all get in our habits. But yeah, it saves so much time when shopping. I think it cuts shopping time in half easily. It does.
Megan
Host
13:24
And, like you said, and I've even found sometimes, if there's just a more kind of neutral style top, like something to wear under a jacket, if I find a cut that I love, I will maybe go get two or three in different colors. If it's kind of a shell, because I'm like I love the style, let me lean into my colors that are are going to best fit there. Now, as far as saving time actually getting dressed, how do we use this to help save time there?
Jeannie Stith
Guest
13:51
So here's the kind of bonus on the back end that nobody really expects when you get a color palette. So everybody's like, yay, it's going to be the colors I look best in, and that's awesome, really big benefit. And like, yay, it's going to help me shop faster, and that's great too. But this is for me the biggest thing. It helps so much with putting outfits together because as you lean into the colors that are on your color card, your closet starts to coordinate way better. So everything starts to go with everything. So I just remember when I had like a smattering of like just, for example, this was true for all my articles of clothing, but a smattering of like every color shoe. I had brown shoes and black shoes and silver shoes and gold shoes and, like you know, all these different colors that shoes can come in. And once I started using my color palette I was like, OK, I'm somebody who has actually really embraced that. Like, black is not a great color for me. It drains all the color from my face.
Megan
Host
14:46
It doesn't have to learn that from you. Like black is nowhere to be found.
Jeannie Stith
Guest
14:52
Yeah, except for my makeup card.
Megan
Host
14:53
I'm allowed black mascara and that's it.
Jeannie Stith
Guest
14:55
That's right. Black mascara, me too. Me too, you know I can do a charcoal gray really well but I cannot do black, it just is.
15:04
It's really heavy on me. Now, if I want to wear black pants, that might be like a different, a little bit of a different story because you know they're not up against my face but in terms of what's up against my face, I got rid of the blacks and really I got rid of a lot of blacked from my closet because it just made sense for me. So, anyway, the point is, if I grab a pair of pants from my closet, almost every single shirt I have goes with that pair of pants. Every single pair of shoes I have goes with those pants and the shirt. My jewelry is all in the same color palette. So, like you know, I have the metal that I wear particularly well, which is silver for me and gold for you, gold for me yes, but silver for me and it's like everything goes together my coats, like when I grab a jacket, for that outfit everything goes.
15:55
This was the biggest game changer for me, because it sort of created that easy, natural capsule wardrobe and it limited what I brought into my wardrobe, which was the biggest thing, because I used to and I think a lot of people can probably relate to this I used to be in the pattern of buying things and then purging, buying, purging, buying, purging, and I felt like I was always getting rid of stuff that I kind of just thought not that long ago and didn't wear very much. Right, and then I kind of felt bad about it. I felt guilty. I was like I wasted money, I wasted time finding that thing and I didn't really wear it. Why, I don't know. But what I realized was the problem that cycle was not working for me. I felt like I was wasting a lot of money.
16:44
And then, when I started thinking about like oh, I'm going to be way more intentional about what I bring into my wardrobe to begin with, everything changed. I own less clothes than I ever have before and I am way happier with them and I wear them. They say you wear like 20% of your wardrobe. That's like the average is we wear actually 20. We grab the same things over and over. We wear the 20% of our wardrobe and the other 80% sits there.
17:14
And I was definitely that person before I discovered color analysis. And then I think also it's not just about color it's really good to get a handle on what shapes of clothing you like on your body. That was huge for me. I always was resistant to that because I didn't want to put my body in this box. I was like I don't want to be identified as this type of shape. But let me tell you, once I discovered what I actually liked on my body shape, I started to like my body way more, way more, and I can get dressed and feel more confident in what I'm wearing 100%.
17:48
So I really I always wanted someone else's body before I learned how to dress my body shape, and so now I'm a very big proponent of learning your body how to dress it. What do you like on your body shape? Because I was wanting someone else's body and now I actually really don't Like. I really like my body shape. I know what fits my body shape. I stopped trying on shift dresses which are super straight and I'm super curvy. I was like, oh, I just don't try them on anymore and then blame my body. I'm like it's the dress that's wrong. It's the dress that's wrong, right? So if you just like discover a little bit about body shape and then also just like, how do you want to show up Personal style? So like the easiest thing is to just create a Pinterest board and like, just put on there things you love. You wouldn't even have to know if they would like you would like them how they look on. You Just like start, but what are you drawn?
18:37
to Of your aesthetic, yeah, of your aesthetic. It's easy and it's free Just create a Pinterest board and start to get some ideas, and then you'll see those things when you shop and you can like, yeah, translate them into an outfit.
Megan
Host
18:48
So yeah, yeah, and I think one of the biggest things I've noticed is when you're talking about how you were always buying and purging, buying and purging. Now, almost always when I'm purging, it's because something has just been worn too much. Yes, I'm like it's looking a little worn, megan, and I am happy to purge in that situation because it means I loved it well and it was money well spent. And so I find when I do go through my purging now it's it really is mostly because I'm like this is looking a little rough. Yeah, I probably shouldn't wear it anymore. Now, the other thing that it really changed for me was how much better my closet is organized and stays organized. Do you have any suggestions on how to use, because I have my system, but I don't know if it fell into it. Maybe you told me and I don't remember, but how you can use this to help keep your closet more organized and not just stuff crammed in there.
Jeannie Stith
Guest
19:49
Yeah Well, I have a couple ideas on that. One of them really doesn't have anything to do with color, but it's my favorite thing that I have come up with. Basically, I wanted to form myself and my own sanity, not have a overstuffed closet. What I did is probably 10 years ago now, but I bought a set of 50 hangers that all match.
Megan
Host
20:16
I decided like no more. All my hangers match. I invested. They're so pretty.
Jeannie Stith
Guest
20:19
That is so worth it to see everything hanging at the same level. It's a nice hanger and like I mean my-.
Megan
Host
20:27
Do you have ones you recommend? I use the Joy hangers, which I really like.
Jeannie Stith
Guest
20:30
I don't know those, but I would love to look at them up. I actually got a set years ago from Ikea and I just bought. They came in a set of 10 and I bought five sets of them. They're nice. They're wooden hangers that got the turnable thing, but they're a lightweight wooden hanger because some of the wooden hangers are heavy. But I absolutely love the way it transformed my closet. But what I did was I decided I'm going to have 50 hangers and that's it. Now I have drawers. You did the same thing, you did.
Megan
Host
21:00
I don't remember what the count was, but I got to where I'm like. This is a wardrobe size I'm comfortable with. I'm never allowed to buy another hanger Period.
Jeannie Stith
Guest
21:08
Exactly that's what I do. That's exactly what.
Megan
Host
21:11
I do.
Jeannie Stith
Guest
21:11
And for some people that number might be 200. 200 might be a reasonable number for some of you, For me it was 50 hanging things.
21:18
Now I also have drawers where I keep jeans.
21:20
I have shelves for my sweaters, but this is for dresses and tops, and I do hang a couple of pants there too.
21:29
But anyway, the whole point is, yes, just, it keeps you in line, because I also here's another thing I did I took pictures of each thing that I have, because now that I'm not purging all the time, my closet does stay mostly the same unless something wears out.
21:46
For the most part, and the reason I keep pictures in my phone of what's already in my closet is when I'm out shopping and all my hangers at home are full, I know something has to go, and so if I want to buy something, something has to go, and so sometimes it helps to just look through and be like okay, is there something I'm like tired of? Is there something I haven't worn in a long time? So I'm a smart, yeah. And also, does this garment go with what I have already which, if you're buying in your color palette, it likely does. But am I buying a duplicate of something I already have, which we do all the time? It might be slightly different, but it's basically the same garment with the same function and the same color, and so that's been really helpful to me too, and I do organize my closet by color just because I like the way it looks you too.
Megan
Host
22:33
Yeah, and I'll have days where I know, I mean, everyone knows my love of pink. Certain times, if I'm speaking on stage or something, I like to show on brand and so I like to have my pink stuff together. So I know, if it's a day like, okay, I really want to be totally on brand today, yeah, here's my pinks to choose from. So, yeah, I love it.
Jeannie Stith
Guest
22:52
Yeah, it just makes me happy when I look at my wardrobe and it looks sort of like a rainbow. That just makes me happy. I know some people will want to organize by tops and pants and whatever and I think that's totally fine Whatever works for you. But I have come around to just really liking looking and seeing sort of the rainbow of colors.
Megan
Host
23:11
Mm-hmm. Yeah, me too. It's so good, and you did mention this earlier. I want to make sure people know, when you were talking about your, if you wear silver and I'm better with gold. Part of the color analysis that I was not expecting was that piece of sharing with me like, hey, here are the medals that are going to best serve you as well. Yes, and that was very interesting for me because I do remember way back when it was silver, like I was told only to wear silver but I'm like I'm drawing to gold and now I realize gold is a better fit for me today. All right, so let's say somebody goes out, gets their color analysis done and walks into their closet and freaks out because they realize nothing in there matches their palette. How do you kind of guide them through a transition to learning to shop with our colors, because obviously we can't all afford to throw our whole closet away and start fresh, right?
Jeannie Stith
Guest
24:04
That's right. That's right. And first of all, let me say that's very rare. There's 35 shades on the card. That's true, with 35 shades. With 35 shades, and you know most people come and they do know some of their best shades. Like there are some, like most people come and they're like they know three or four of their best shades and they're ignoring a whole bunch of others that would look amazing on them. But like they know that you know this one dress they get compliments every time they wear it and every time they look in the mirror they just love the way they look in it and you know so it's very rare that you know it's starting fresh, but most of the time it's transitioning some things out and transitioning some new things in, and so that I always recommend to move slowly with that.
24:45
So I always think when you get your color card, it's a great time to go through your closet and look for things that you don't wear. You never really like that much anyway, and now they're not on your color card as well. Get rid of those things first. Perfect place to start. Yeah, perfect place to start.
25:01
Now a lot of people run into like, oh, like, I really like this top or dress or whatever, but it's not on my color card. Keep it, because a lot of times what happens is, over time, as you start to wear more and more of your colors, it will fall away on its own, naturally, like you don't have to push it. If you're like it's not on my color card and I'm crying, I don't want to get rid of it, like work with it. There's also ways to work with things, like people. You know. One of the biggest questions I get asked about is the little black dress. Now, of course, black looks great on some types, right, but on some types it really doesn't. But like what if you have this black dress that you love and you love the way it fits you and a little black dress seems like that classic thing everybody should have. But I always just recommend thinking about how you can bring your colors near your face Like so use a scarf, use jewelry.
25:50
You know what I mean. It doesn't mean you have to immediately ditch that dress.
Megan
Host
25:53
Yeah, I learned that from you because that was hard for me to see. I had no black on my card and I have some black tops I really like and a black dress, and I didn't get rid of all of them because some are my style like, they're edgy and I like them, but I make sure when I wear them I am wearing one of my very vibrant colors in earrings, for if I'm out, you know, a coat or a purse, my shoes, something, so it's like yeah, I feel like you know I've given myself permission to say sometimes I stray from the card but I find ways to incorporate my color back in.
Jeannie Stith
Guest
26:27
That's right. It's sort of that idea of like knowing the rules and then knowing when you break the rules. Right, Like so a lot of people. Yeah, they'll put on a cardigan or a sweater with that, you know, that color. That doesn't you know, isn't maybe one of the best up against their face or big earrings, or like a statement necklace or there's all sorts of ways to work with it. So I always say take it slow. It happens kind of naturally. When people start like wearing their colors, they see the difference. People are complimenting them more. They're like wow, this really is different and better. And then over time, those things that aren't on their card generally just fall away, like when it's time on their own.
Megan
Host
27:06
Yeah, what I love about this is, you know, for those of you listening that are students in the top program you know we have the nine components that we teach in there and this hits a lot of them, so it hits the centralization pillar, where we talk about organizational strategies Like this, for me, has helped me organize my wardrobe, but then, as I've often shared, getting organized is pointless if you don't have the systems in place that support keeping it organized, and so, for me, this is where having these cards is my system for how to keep myself organized, and so I love that you've provided this tool set.
27:44
And at the time you guys are listening to this, it is gift giving season, yeah, and this is something I personally have gifted to friends and family, and I want people to understand this could be a great holiday gift option for someone, because you can go right on your website and the option is you're doing this for yourself or as a gift, and you give a lot of options on how this can be gifted for someone. So if there's somebody in your life that you haven't maybe settled on a gift for yet, for the holidays or an upcoming birthday or anything like that, definitely consider this. So where can people go to learn about all the different color analysis packages you have?
Jeannie Stith
Guest
28:21
Sure. So our website is color gurucom, and then we're on Instagram at your color guru.
Megan
Host
28:29
All right and we've got all the links in the show notes. And, guys, she is so amazing. She has a special coupon just for my listeners, which I love. So if you go and check out, put in the word harmony as a coupon code and you will get a discount, even if you're purchasing it as a gift for someone. So I can't thank you enough for offering that. I love my color analysis. I am a vivid screen, so for those of you that go get your colors done, hit me up if you're a vivid spring as well. So I can you know which is the least common? Have you found one?
Jeannie Stith
Guest
29:02
Vivid spring. Of course it is. Vivid spring is the least common. The two least common are vivid winter and vivid spring. Yes, so we have 12 types, and those are the two rarest.
Megan
Host
29:13
All right. Well, I want to know where my other vivid springs are out there, so come, hit me up on Instagram and let me know. Thank you so much for building this incredible business, which has served so many people, and for sharing all of this wonderful knowledge with us today.
Jeannie Stith
Guest
29:28
Thank you so much for having me. It's such a pleasure.
Megan
Host
29:33
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